Proofreading jobs online are a flexible way to supplement your income. Some people are so good at what they do, they can even turn proofreading into a full-time career.
But if you’ve never actually worked as a proofreader before, it can be difficult to know how and where to get started. And you probably have a lot of questions like, “Do I need a degree or formal training?”
To help you decide whether or not proofreading is right for you (and if you have what it takes to be successful!) read on. This proofreading jobs online guide is meant to help complete beginners jump start their proofreading career the right way.
If you’re ready to jump right in and start learning the ropes of proofreading from the pros, be sure to check out a free 45-minute workshop that’ll show you how to put your proofreading skills to work — including what it takes to be successful!
Looking for specific proofreading jobs online? You need to check out Proofreading Pro. In this e-course, Phon shows you how to work specifically with entrepreneurs, writers, and content creators as a proofreader. She also shows you the steps she took to break into the competitive publishing industry (and how you can too!).
What Exactly is Proofreading?
Many people confuse the terms proofreading and editing. I always like to think of editing as more “big picture” stuff. When editing, you look to make sure content has good flow, conveys the right meaning, and generally reads well. Editing is usually a much more involved process than proofreading.
Proofreading is more narrowly focused than editing. When proofreading you want to go over a piece of content with a fine-tooth comb. The main purpose of proofreading is to make sure there are no spelling, grammatical or typographical errors.
When proofreading, you probably won’t make suggestions to change the overall flow or structure of content — your main goal is making sure it is error-free.
Wait. Isn’t that what spell-checker is for?
Too many people rely on spell-checkers and grammar-checkers built into word processing programs like Word. And while these are definitely helpful to give a final once over, they should not be relied on. Why? They’re far from perfect.
Check out the screenshot of some sentences I typed up in Word:
Can you spot the errors? Microsoft Word couldn’t. That’s why you shouldn’t trust it entirely to proofread for you. And that’s also why people turn to proofreaders to give their writing a thorough and final review to avoid embarrassing mistakes like the ones above.
Do I need an English degree to apply for proofreading jobs online?
The short answer? No. Just because you have a degree in English doesn’t necessarily mean you’d make an amazing proofreader just as not having an English degree doesn’t automatically make you a terrible proofreader. What you do need to have is the willingness to learn.
If you don’t have experience as a proofreader, there will definitely be a learning curve. You’ll need to develop your skills and eventually market yourself as a proofreader in order to grow your career. To do this well, you’ll have to constantly be learning, evolving, and growing.
I think I’ve got what it takes. What else should I have?
Generally speaking, proofreaders are detail-oriented people. If you routinely spot errors when reading blog posts, articles, pamphlets, magazines, ads or just about any copy — you’re definitely a detail-oriented person! To be successful as a proofreader, you should also have a strong command of English including grammar, spelling, and syntax.
Depending on the job, you may have to know proofreaders’ marks. These traditional signs and symbols are used when proofreading a document to indicate what kinds of changes should be made. Other clients may ask that you track changes in Word so they can see the edits you suggest.
Narrow the playing field
After you’ve read up on what it takes to be a proofreader and brushed up on your skills
As a freelance writer, I always recommend that new writers find their niche. Why? It’s much easier to find work when you’re targeting a certain “tribe.” This theory holds true for freelance proofreaders too.
While I primarily make a living as a freelance writer, I take on quite a few proofreading gigs for select clients. What’s my niche? Case briefs, memorandums, and other legal documents like demand letters and lease agreements. Because I focus my work on a select group of clients, I can more easily market my services to them because I know exactly who my clients are — lawyers, law offices, and corporate legal departments.
Aside from making it easier to find proofreading jobs online, picking a niche allows you to easily position yourself as an expert. And once you reach expert status, you can charge much more for your services than if you generalized as a proofreader. I can’t stress enough how picking a niche can help you stay focused and catapult you to proofreading success early on.
I highly recommend checking out the e-course, Proofreading Pro. Phon shows you how to target a specific niche — entrepreneurs, publishers, content creators — as a new proofreader (and how she broke into the industry!).
Which niche should I choose?
I’ve got a good friend who has a marketing background. She does a lot of proofreading for ecommerce sites. Mostly she checks to make sure that product descriptions and user guides are error-free before they go live on the client’s website. After all, a turtleneck sweater and a turtle neck sweater are two very different things 🙂
If a niche isn’t jumping out at you right away, here’s some ideas for inspiration:
- E-books
- White papers
- Transcripts
- Academic papers
- Resumes
- Marketing materials
- Contracts
- Press releases
This of course is just a small sample of potential niches. To start, pick a subject you’re comfortable with. You might find that you eventually fall into a certain niche that you didn’t intend to target in the first place! Remember, you can always expand into different niches later. But when first starting out, try to stick with one and grow from there.
Where can I find proofreading jobs online?
If you’ve made it this far, you’re probably ready to learn where exactly all the proofreading jobs online are. The truth is, they’re everywhere. Seriously. Just about every website and blog can benefit from the eyes of a proofreader. I can attest to this as a freelance writer myself.
Our minds have a funny way of tricking us into thinking that what we’ve just written reads as we intend it to be read. When you’re so close to something you’ve written, you tend to overlook mistakes that are glaringly obvious to a fresh set of eyes.
That’s why when I write an e-book,white paper or other large piece of content for a client, I always hire a proofreader to give a final look. I factor in the cost of hiring a proofreader into my fees as a writer. The cost is well worth the result — an error-free final product that looks perfectly polished to the client.
Upwork
Upwork is now the largest freelance marketplace. If you’re wanting to try your hand at freelance proofreading, this is a great platform to start. How does Upwork work?
- Clients post their proofreading gigs
- Freelancers, like you, submit proposals
- The client reads through proposals and selects the freelancer(s) they’d like to work with
It’s free to submit proposals, but Upwork does take a 10% cut of any payments you receive — so keep this in mind! The best way to find proofreading jobs online on Upwork is to completely fill out your profile and submit proposals that stand out.
Some best practices to keep in mind when submitting proposals include:
- Tell the client what you can do for them first and foremost
- Talk about your skills and expertise second
- Close with a call to action (contact me, hire me, etc.)
If you want to target proofreading jobs on Upwork, it’s also a good idea to take the U.S. English Proofreading Skills Test (Chicago). Upwork provides this for free, and you can display your results directly on your profile. Taking the test and placing your score on your profile gives you more credibility as a professional proofreader.
Often, clients on Upwork will ask you what tests you’ve taken on the site that relate well to the job. Taking this test will make you stand out as the skilled proofreader they need.
Before you take the test, you’ll see that it tells you the test’s contents in the box to the right. This particular test is based on The Chicago Manual of Style
If you don’t do so well, don’t panic! You can “hide” the test results from your public profile. And, after studying up, can retake it again after 30 days.
Job Boards
From time to time, I come across proofreading jobs posted on niche job boards like ProBlogger. It’s a good idea to check ProBlogger at least a couple of times a week. Often, jobs are filled quickly because of the number of applicants each listing receives!
You can also browse Indeed for proofreading jobs online.
I counted 10 errors.
I found 10 errors.
I reassessed my answer to 11:
1980’s to 1980s
are to our
altogether to all together
then to than
albums to album’s
Mineapolis to Minneapolis
fan’s to fans
all ready to already
their to they’re
there to their
friend’s to friends
I see 13 errors.
I found just eight errors
are to our
then to than
albums to album’s
fan’s to fans
all ready to already
their to they’re
there to their
friend’s to friends
I found 13 and a possible errors!
1. 1980’s to 1980s
2. popstars to pop stars
3. are earth to our earth
4. altogether to all together
5. then thirty years to than thirty years
6. albums release to album’s release
7. Mineapolis to Minneapolis
8. his fan’s to his fans
9. all ready to already
10. their to they’re
11. of to for
12. there to their
13. friend’s to friends
Also, conservatively, “thirty years” is fine. However, with contemporary writing, “30 years” would be the preferred method (only numbers under 10 being spelled out).
10
I am recently retired and looking for my new career! I am known as a perfectionist and believe business documents are a reflection on the company as well as the author.
This document contains at least the 13 errors previously mentioned. In addition, the document is passive and is very redundant!
15!!
Since the late 1980’s, John Smith has been one of the biggest popstars on are earth. His latest album brings his biggest hits altogether for the first time in more then thirty years. To go along with the albums release, John Smith announced a number of concert dates which will start early next month in Mineapolis. Many of his fan’s are all ready camped out to make sure their the first ones to get tickets of all there friend’s.
Since the late 1980s, John Smith had been one of the biggest pop star on our Earth. His latest album brought his biggest hits all together for the first time in more than 30 years. To go along with the album’s release, John Smith announced a number of concert dates which will start early next month in Minneapolis. Many of his fans are already camped out to make sure they’re the first ones to get tickets for all their friends.
14 or 16 errors in my opinion. Give or take earth as lower or capitalize and the number thirty years as 30 years.
Since the late 1980’s, John Smith has been one of the biggest popstars on are earth. His latest album brings his biggest hits altogether for the first time in more then thirty years. To go along with the albums release, John Smith announced a number of concert dates which will start early next month in Mineapolis. Many of his fan’s are all ready camped out to make sure their the first ones to get tickets of all there friend’s.
1. 1980’s to 1980s
2. are to our
3. earth to Earth
4. altogether to all together
5. then to than
6. albums to album’s
7. Mineapolis to Minneapolis
8. fan’s to fans
9. all ready to already
10. their to they’re
11. there to their
12. friend’s to friends
adding to my previous list is:
13. popstars to pop stars
14. to get tickets OF all their friends to either: to get tickets OUT OF all their friends. (Being competitive) or to get tickets FOR all their friends.
I counted 13 errors. That last sentence made my head hurt!
GREAT article. Thank you so much!
13 errors
I found 10 errors:
popstars – pop stars
are earth – our earth
altogether – all together
then – than
thirty years – 30
Mineapolis – Minneapolis
fan’s – fans
their – they’re or they are
there – their
friend’s – friends
I am happy to see that you have a short test. Thank you for this opportunity. Your site was very informative and helpful.
10 errors.
I counted 13 errors. I am very thankful for this article. This is something I have been interested in getting in to for a number of years now. Thank you for showing me the way!
Since the late 1980’s, John Smith has been one of the biggest popstars on are earth. His latest album brings his biggest hits altogether for the first time in more then thirty years. To go along with the albums release, John Smith announced a number of concert dates which will start early next month in Mineapolis. Many of his fan’s are all ready camped out to make sure their the first ones to get tickets of all there friend’s.
I found 12 errors.
1. popstars should be pop stars
2. on are earth should be on earth (delete are)
3. altogether should be all together
4. then should be than
5. albums should be album’s
6. Mineapolis should be Minneapolis
7. fan’s should be fans
8. all ready should be already
9. their should be they’re
10. there should be their
11. friend’s should be friends
12. The last sentence should be rearranged to read: Many of his fans are already camped out to make
sure they’re the first ones of their friends to get tickets.
Thanks for the great website!
I found 12 errors. Most are very common, and when I see them, I wince.
I just retyped it:
Since the late 1980s, John Smith has been one of the biggest pop stars on earth. His latest album brings his biggest hits together for the first time in more than thirty years. Along with the album’s release, Smith announced a number of concert dates which will start early next month in Minneapolis. Many of his fans are already camped out to make sure they’re the first of their friends to get tickets.
I found 13 proofreading errors. I also found another three or four usage errors such as using Smith instead of using John Smith each time and using the number 30 instead of thirty.
I found 12.
“If a niche isn’t jumping out at you right away, here’s some ideas …”
This should be here ARE some ideas.
Hi, I found 11 errors and I’ve retyped it below:
Since the late 1980’s, John Smith has been one of the biggest pop stars on earth. His latest album brings his biggest hits together for the first time in more than thirty years. To go along with the album’s release, John Smith announced a number of concert dates which will start early next month in Minneapolis. Many of his fans are already camped out to make sure they are the first ones to get tickets of all their friends.
There are fourteen errors
I found 11 errors I would correct (assuming the article itself had to remain written as it appears, with just proofreading it and making corrections).
17
Since the late 1980’(1)s,(2) John Smith has been one of the biggest pop(3)stars on are(4) e(5)arth. His latest album brings his biggest hits al(6)together for the first time in more then(7) thirty(8) years. To go along with the album(9)s release, John Smith announced a number of concert dates(10) which will start early next month in Min(11)eapolis. Many of his fan’(12)s are all(13) ready camped out to make sure their(14) the first ones to get tickets of(15) all there(16) friend’(17)s.
I think the comma at #2 should be removed and one should be added at #10, because the clause before #2 is essential to the meaning of the sentence, but the information after #10 isn’t (if it is, then “which” should be replaced with “that”).
I admit that I was getting mixed up on “which” and “that” and had to look it up (I thought a “that” was needed). I had to look up the commas, too. My inclination was that at least one of them wasn’t needed, but I was unsure. I’m sure I’m still not using all the proper grammar terminology!
Fun test. Thank you for the informative article!
Oops! It looks like I was wrong about #2.
Hi,
I do not want to talk about the errors in the fun para.
You already have got plenty of comments regarding the same..
.I just want you to know I truly appreciate your help.
Your article is very informative.
Thank you for the same.
In addition to about 14 mistakes/problems, the whole paragraph needs to be restructured to be effectively presented.
I agree with most of the changes suggested above, except for the problem in the final subordinate clause in the last sentence of the paragraph. To me, the problem isn’t that the writer chose the wrong preposition (“of” instead of “for”); rather the placement of the prepositional phrase is unclear. I would edit the sentence this way:
Many of his fans are already camped out to make sure they’re the first of all their friends to get tickets.
Thank you very much for the informative site.
I found 10 errors
In my view, ten plus one: the first line of your article should read: “Proofreading jobs online is a flexible way . . . . ”
I find your presentation very insightful and helpful all the same. Thank you for an excellent starting place for a retired guy who would like to make money being critical.
I counted 15 errors. These include the commas in the first and third sentences which I do not think are necessary. I would rephrase the last sentence to read: . . . camped out to make sure they are the first ones of all their friends to get tickets. Thanks for this interesting and fun exercise.
I found the errors that everyone else did, but I also noticed that the word “Earth” should have been capitalized, as it is referring to our planet.
I found 13 errors
very informative
Hi Ashlee,
Thank you for this blog.
As a “new” proofreader I found it extremely informative.
I live in Johannesburg, South Africa.
I think that many people around the world think that one finds lions roaming the streets here and that all South Africans are illiterate! I can assure you that our streets have too many cars but no lions (!) and we have produced many world-renowned academics, doctors etc.
I found 14 possibly 15 errors. Two of the sentences could be written better as well.
I found 13 errors. Is that right?
I counted 10 errors.
Since the late 1980’s, John Smith has been one of the biggest popstars popstars on are earth. His latest album brings all his biggest hits altogether for the first time in more then than thirty years. To go along with accompany the albums album’s release, John Smith announced a number of concert dates which will start early starting early next month in MineapolisMinneapolis. Many of his fan’s are all ready camped out to make sure their they’re among the first ones to get tickets. of all there friend’s.
Thank you very much, Ashlee. Like the gentleman who responded earlier, I am also retired and looking to supplement my retirement income by proofreading and editing. Thank you for providing a helpful place to start.
I counted 13. I was ready to scream by the time I got to the end of it!
I counted ten
I found 12 errors.
What a fun little exercise! Thanks Ashlee.
I counted 15 errors.
1. 1980s
2. pop stars
3. our earth
4. all together
5. than
6. 30
7. album’s
8. a number of (gr) > several
9. Minneapolis
10. fans
11. already
12. they are
13. their
14. friends
15. the first of all their friends to get tickets (gr)
see:
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/251758/should-names-of-styles-or-genres-be-capitalized
Ashley, thank you for your excellent recommendations on getting started in the online proofreading world. Your blog is exceptionally helpful and you’ve inspired me to expand my own adventures in proofreading, writing and editing. Cheers!
I counted 13 errors
If one includes awkward phrasing, I counted at least 13 errors. This is the way I would have written it:
Since the late 1980s, John Smith has been one of the biggest pop stars on earth. His latest album brings his biggest hits all together for the first time in more than thirty years. To accompany the album’s release, Smith announced a number of concert dates beginning early next month in Minneapolis. Many of his fans are already camped out to ensure they’re among the first of their friends to get tickets.
14 errors
I have spotted 14 possible errors so far… I m a Nigerian, it’ll be a privilege to work with you. Thank you.
13 errors, 14 if you count thirty which should be 30. I’m a retired hospital medical transcriptionist (30 years). This would be right up my alley!
1. 1980’s … 1980s
2. popstars … pop stars
3. Delete “are”
4. earth … Earth
5. altogether … all together
6. then … than
7. thirty … 30
8. albums … album’s
9. dates which … dates, which
10. Mineapolis … Minneapolis
11. fan’s … fans
12. all ready … already
13. their … they’re
14. there … they’re
15. friend’s … friends
I am looking for freelance proofreader work. There is a company that wants you to be proficient in AP, APA, Chicago, MLA and CSE styles. It would cost over $100 to purchase online subscriptions or print copies of the latest editions of those guides–with no guarantee that you’ll be hired.
Do these companies usually do a screening test on all of the style guides they want you to have under your belt? I know you can’t answer for all of them. I’d just like to get a general idea. Thanks!
Hi Jane,
Thanks for stopping by. I would say that proofreading companies that require familiarity with a certain style will test you in some way to determine whether or not you are well versed in APA, Chicago, MLA, etc. These manuals are not cheap, as you already noted, but are often worth the cost to help you break into the world of freelance proofreading. Good luck!
Happily,
Ashlee
Dear Ashlee:
Thanks for the article.
I have a journalism degree (UF), and “good eye,” but haven’t been a working editor/proofreader for 40 years! I went off in a totally different direction. But, I never lost the “bug!” Am I being unrealistic to hope for, let alone expect, any kind of success? I would love to do it as a part-time retirement income. If I set up a good website, would it get a response?
I found 13 errors. Also, a comment was left by a self described perfectionist who called the article “very redundant”. That’s similar to saying something is “very unique”
If it’s unique or redundant, “very” is superfluous. Reminds me of a pet peeve: “free gift” – if it’s a gift, it IS free!
There are 14 errors, definitely.
I counted at least 10 errors. Also, about midway through your document I noticed that Phon’s name was misspelled. You have her name listed as Phone rather than Phon. Just something I noticed and thought I would share for fun.
Thanks, Teresa! I work on a Mac, and it has a bad habit of autocorrecting on me. Good eye. I’ll have to fix it.
Happily,
Ashlee
I counted 13 mistakes on my first quick read. Reading other people’s comments, there are two more which I would check before completing the task.
Yes. I am always finding errors in content. I have great typing and grammatical skills. I am not sure what this is all about. I had to scroll down to just get to the end of the gist of things.
I found 13 errors (14 if you follow a more contemporary style and use 30 rather than thirty).
>1980’s to 1980s
>on are earth to on our earth or on Earth
> altogether to together
>then to than
>albums to album’s
>Minneapolis
>fan’s to fans
>popstars to pop stars
>allready to already
>for their friends
>their to they’re
How about the error in the article, when stating the name Phone & Phon?
Thanks Amanda. I work on a Mac and autocorrect is a little overzealous at times 😉
Happily,
Ashlee
There is an error in the article. The name “Phon” was written as “Phone.”
Why is y’all beetin’ up on ‘dis righter? The errors are their to make u’all do sum practise. I did find one though that none of you got…(nanny nanny poo poo):
“That’s why when I write an e-book,white paper…” No space after the comma…a grammar checker would have gotten that one…or my super anal retentive eyes…and I didn’t need to double check it somewhere else like you all did with most of your ‘finds’. So just pass your writing over to me and I’ll fix them for you for free.
Error in your article:
That’s why when I write an e-book,white paper or other large piece of content for a client, I always hire a proofreader to give a final look.
Ironically, considering the content of the sentence, you have missed a space after the comma.
Well, until I read through this: http://domainite.com/editing-sample/, I thought that I would be a pretty good proofreader with my eagle eye!
Obviously, the rabbit hole to this profession is deeper than I thought, and they are looking for way above average proofreaders, not just us newbies who are always finding spelling and grammatical mistakes in everything!
Not so simple….
I’m bit deflated now.
But thanks for your help to come to this finding!
To give up or to persist… hmmmmm….
I found 13.
I have found ten (10) errors in the paragraph.
Including paraphrasing there are 15 shortcomings to be replaced as thus:
1. 1980’s should be 80s
2. Popstars to pop stars
3. ‘Are’ should either be
disposed or be ‘our’
earth
4. ‘All together’ or just
‘together’
5. Then — than
6. Albums to album’s
7. ‘Which’ substituted with
‘that will start’ since it’s a
defining clause.
8. Mineapolis to
Minneapolis
9. Fan’s to fans
10. ‘All ready’ to already
11. Camped out shall be
better off camped-out
12. Their to they’re
13. There with their
14. Friend’s to be friends
15. In fact, the last line can
be comprehensibly
paraphrased as “….make sure they’re ahead of all their friends to get the tickets.”
I’ve submitted over a hundred proposals over the years to Upwork. Early on, I landed ONE contract, which ended up being twice the work I expected it to be and four times what the client thought it would be. Since then, I haven’t even landed an interview. And since the client didn’t give me a rating on the second job in the contract (my “handler” at the client company changed, and the client was suspended and reinstated from Upwork multiple times), I don’t have the 90% positive review rating–even tough 100% of my reviews are 5-star. And in complete bass-ackwards logic, Upwork sets people who are desperately trying to land jobs to PRIVATE, and only allows your profile to be PUBLIC if you’re already getting enough contracts and don’t need the extra exposure.
I’ve probably wasted over 100 hours on proposals that didn’t even get the dignity of a reply.
I am so glad to have read “Become a Proofreader Online for Beginners” for I learned a lot from it. I am so much interested in becoming a proofreader for it will allow me to earn anywhere I am, and it’s right for me for I intend to resume my course in Law.
I found 12 examples in the text that would be considered as grammatical inaccuracies, incorrect spellings and punctuation flaws. The final sentence doesn’t read well but it’s more an error of syntax, in my opinion.
I read on here that Upwork provides the U.S. English Proofreading Skills Test (Chicago) for free…. I am registered with the website, but I do not know how to find the test for free. Can someone tell me how to find it?
I found at least 13 errors in spelling and a few sections that should be rephrased. I’m interested in working as a freelance proofreader to supplement my part-time job at our local library. I get frustrated when I encounter many mistakes in local newspaper articles and in online resources. I’ve observed that most journalists and writers of these articles are not given adequate time to proofread their work. I would be happy to help with that.
Re-written for error and flow, let me know what you think!
Since the late 1980s, John Smith has been a global pop star. His latest album compiles his biggest hits for the first time in more than thirty years. In conjunction with the album’s release, John Smith announced his concert dates that start early next month in Minneapolis. Many of his fans are already camping out to make sure they’re the first ones who get tickets.
The Article appears to need 18 adjustments as follows:
Since the late 1980’s, John Smith has been one of the biggest Pop Stars on Earth. His latest Album brings his biggest hits all together, for the first time, in more than 30 years. To go along with the Album’s release, John Smith announced a number of concert dates; which will start early next month in Minneapolis. Many of his fans are already camped out; to make sure they are the first ones, of all their friends, to get tickets.
1. Capital “P” in Pop
2. Capital “S” in Stars
3. Remove “are” from before Earth.
4. Capital “E” for Earth
5. Capital “A” for Album after latest
6. Change altogether to all together.
7. Change ” then” to ” than” before 30 years.
8. change thirty to 30.
9. Capital “A” for Album before release
10. Comma after release
11. Semicolon before which
12. Add second “n” to Minneapolis
13. No apostrophe for fans
14. Change all ready to already.
15. Semicolon between out and to
16. their should be they are
17. Remove apostrophe for friends.
18. Move ” to get tickets” to after friends.
Um, There should be a space after your comma in the section entitled Where to Find Proofreading Jobs Online; 3rd paragraph, first line. e-book, (insert space) whitepaper…….just sayin’…so, do I get a job recommendation? Thanks!
I found 10 errors.
I found 10 errors, 11 if you count “all ready” as 2 errors.
Good eyes, Kay!
I enjoy reading through a post that can make people think.
Also, many thanks for allowing for me to comment!
Good like it
I found 13 errors
i counted 13 errors
Since the late 1980s, John Smith has been one of the biggest pop stars here on earth. His latest album brings his biggest hits all together for the first time in more than thirty years. To go along with the album’s release, John Smith announced a number of concert dates which will start early next month in Minneapolis. Many of his fans are already camped out to make sure they are the first ones to get tickets of all their friends.
You should check your links and info – Upwork is no longer free and a number of the links are dead
The paragraph needs an editor, not a proofreader.
Your Proofreading Pro link sends me to Samcart.com
Thanks, Mary! I’m going to fix it ASAP 🙂
I myself found 9 errors. Later I found out that I was actually 4 short. Never mind. It was my first experience.